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Khizlek
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:23 pm    Post subject: DCI-DI Fleet Discussion. Reply with quote

This area should be the main area for discussing deployment, strategies, requests for material, etc. Basically any facet of the fleet and the contract between DCI and DI.

To start off - apart from the current load of of fighters, I will soon be making another contract with System Lord Skyburn to buy more fighters, most likely 10 interceptors (Guardians), and the rest consisting of DnS-5 Moquito IV space superiority.

Additional ship reinforcements will most likely take the form of additional Fearless assault ships, with another two carriers in 5-10 months (either Launcher II or Lushyoko) which will have 60-80% of their cargo space dedicated towards heavy bombers, most likely an improved Telelance.

In light of this, do you have any requests for material, in order to flesh out the fleet? Or any requests for different model types?


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Prophet
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two things to mention at this time.

1) I request that any deal you are planning that even remotely involves Dragonstar be disclosed to us as soon as possible. I am somewhat disappointed we were not notified sooner about the first shipment of fighters purchased. Time was wasted on our side looking for fighters to add to the empty carriers.

2) I would like to point out your long term projections on reinforcements is light on PD. You have Fearless frigates (no PD) coupled with bomber-heavy carriers. I would request you put interceptors and PD ships at a higher priority.


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Khizlek
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In our correspondance I specifically mentioned that we should both be looking to source fighters. I received no information about your efforts, so when an opportunity rapidly developed I took it. You were also notified soon after the deal was struck.

Currently the priority of military bound resources is as follows:
1] EO Fleet.
2] Internal DCI fleet.
3] DI Fleet.

The estimated total strength I hoped the fleet would end up as 4 carriers (need 2 more, primarily bomber based), 4 assault ships, 5-7 other escorts (need them all, being mix of Int, or more assault ships). I would estimate 2 ships could be built at any one time, depending on funds. The bomber equipped carriers would probably have to be left last in the list.

I was thinking 5 'Guardian' interceptors (150kt) on each of the current carriers would be suitable for fighter based Int work, though that can always be changed in tonnage or fighter size. What kind of interceptor ships would be needed - antimissile or antifighter?

Personally, I was thinking something along the lines of the Sponge (antifighter) for most of the escorts - it's moderately priced, tough for its size, and is easier to repair than 20cm armour escorts. A modified version replacing 5kt armour with 1x 20mm laser & 1x 20mm torpedo is also possible within the price range. Do you have any other suggestions


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Prophet
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Khizlek wrote:
In our correspondance I specifically mentioned that we should both be looking to source fighters. I received no information about your efforts, so when an opportunity rapidly developed I took it.


But since I have to use the carriers, the onus is on me to find fighters. You are happy to look but I MUST look. I think that is a given.

I am glad you took the opportunity. I just do not understand why you did not breath a word of it to me until the deal was done.

Khizlek wrote:
You were also notified soon after the deal was struck.


Not soon enough. If you had informed us at the same time you started speaking with Skyburn it would have made things much easier.

Khizlek wrote:
Personally, I was thinking something along the lines of the Sponge (antifighter) for most of the escorts


In our experience, ships like the Dragonfly G-class are more effective. The more variety in the weaponry the better.


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Khizlek
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prophet wrote:
I am glad you took the opportunity. I just do not understand why you did not breath a word of it to me until the deal was done.

It was a rapid development - done within the space of an hour.

Prophet wrote:
In our experience, ships like the Dragonfly G-class are more effective. The more variety in the weaponry the better.


I'm not that convinced that the Dragonfly is better - it lacks a shield, at the very least. A modified version, sacrificing the 40mm cannons for a shield and some armour would make it better. Replacing the 20mm plasma with 20mm DUC would also improve it, as supply is not a problem.

Extra: After reading the Phong fleet report, will be looking alot the full 9 escorts, though the rate of acquisition would be the same.

The escorts will need to absorb a lot of damage, hence why I would prefer a tough, though small, ship. My thinking was that Plasma/DUC range weapons wouldn't be active enough during a battle, when compared to longer range Laser/Torpedos.


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Khizlek
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm trying to work out a construction contract with SL Skyburn, to buy 8-10 PD ships, to enhance your fleet. I'll go along with using some kind of Dragonfly type ship for the frigates (with decreased rad costs), but they'd compris only 2-4 of them, the rest being made of some kind of cheaper ship (a BlowDart, or my favourite, a Gnat).

My personal SY ships are building two more carriers, so we have six months between us to find fighters for them (and the current carriers as well).


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Prophet
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Khizlek wrote:
My personal SY ships are building two more carriers, so we have six months between us to find fighters for them (and the current carriers as well).


Fighters in the north are sort of hard to come by, at least at the 125% price I am limited to. I am currently sending the DCIM Idiotbang to Ochre, the closest market within the price limit.


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Khizlek
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SL Skyburn currently has a cheaper price on fighters bought in Zitrod, so that is something we should think about.


If you're given an extra 2880kt of carrier cargo (in addition to your own), how many fighters would you need to get 40% SS, 40% HB, 20% other, for all four carriers?


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Khizlek
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The new PD design - Kowloon. What's your opinion of it, and do you think it needs a new strategy?

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Prophet
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Khizlek wrote:
SL Skyburn currently has a cheaper price on fighters bought in Zitrod, so that is something we should think about


According to what? The Commodity Listing for Zitrod shows all colonies closed.

Khizlek wrote:
If you're given an extra 2880kt of carrier cargo (in addition to your own), how many fighters would you need to get 40% SS, 40% HB, 20% other, for all four carriers?


Assuming heavy fighter sized hulls, you are looking at 38 SS, 38 HB, 20 Other. If I did my math correctly.

Do you have specific fighter classes in mind?

Khizlek wrote:
The new PD design - Kowloon. What's your opinion of it, and do you think it needs a new strategy?


Should be fine.


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Khizlek
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A large fraction of the needed fighters will be supplemented by Zitrod planets, and the rest will most likely be made via my colonies in Mveloem.

What kind of escorts & of what number would you want for operations in the next year?


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