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Skyburn
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:41 pm    Post subject: Privateer Contract Reply with quote

CEO Prophet,

I would like to discuss setting up a contract. I would like to contract a small fleet to raid Phong shipping. I was thinking six military-grade destroyers, all modern (or custom)designs specially built for this contract.

I might also need this fleet to perform escort missions for our support ships, and coordinate with the FWSN for joint attacks on more heavily defended targets.

I would prefer a fleet that could operate in Phong space for extended periods without resupply. No carriers at this point, Bifrost is low on fighters. I will leave the exact ship designs to you.

As for payment, I would like to pay 110% of the fleet's maintence, plus prize money for destroyed Phong ships. If we request an extended noncombat mission, like an escort mission, maybe we could attach a payment for the mission. The ships themselves would become your property.

I would like a two-year term to start, with a five month notice cancellation option. I would also like an option to renew the contract at the same price.

I won't be able to sign the contract for a couple of months, but it might take that long to design the ships and clear the funds to begin construction. I am, of course, open to any suggestions or comments you may have.
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In the past, House Bifrost used large numbers of civilian-grade warships to fill its combat needs. However, my strategists tell me that these ships are not very useful in modern combat. Since you have a great deal of military experience, I would like your opinion on these ships. Can they still be of use?

Right now I'm thinking these ships might be more useful as razor blades. Smile


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Prophet
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An excellent idea, System Lord. I applaud your creativity. I hope this deal inspires your colleagues to propose similar contracts.

The basics of the contract are doable. We can operate a small raiding party behind enemy lines. Should wreak some good havoc on the Phong. I have no problem with using destroyers only.

The 110% monthly payment plus prize money sounds okay. I assume the destroyers will be built by House Bifrost for us for free?

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I would like a two-year term to start, with a five month notice cancellation option. I would also like an option to renew the contract at the same price.

I must refuse the latter half of that request. After two years of operation, I am going to need some sort of a raise in income. You will have two years' worth of growth. You will be able to afford more. Sorry, but I cannot guarantee you will get the same price after two years have passed.


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Skyburn
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prophet wrote:
I assume the destroyers will be built by House Bifrost for us for free?


Yes.

Prophet wrote:
I must refuse the latter half of that request. After two years of operation, I am going to need some sort of a raise in income. You will have two years' worth of growth. You will be able to afford more. Sorry, but I cannot guarantee you will get the same price after two years have passed.


I can understand refusing a price guarentee.

Don't overestimate our future growth. Ice colonization ships are very expensive. I still haven't paid off the ones I've already built. It will be some time before these Ice worlds pay off their colonization.

Even building the ships for your fleet will be a challenge. I will probably have to build them one at a time.


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Prophet
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skyburn wrote:
I can understand refusing a price guarentee.

Don't overestimate our future growth.

I know. Ice colony growth will be slow. But there will be growth.

Also, I am sure your budget is weighed down by the large number of defense ships Bifrost maintains. 110th Defense Squadron alone is costing you thousands. In your original post, you suggested getting rid of some of these ships. You could even replace their firepower with federally-subsidized defense platforms if you needed to. Save Bifrost a boatload of resources.

Oh, and to answer your question about the usefulness of Bifrost's fleet? They can be of some use in their current duty, warp point defense. In large numbers I could see the patrol ships being effective. But I do not think it would be as cost effective as static platforms. You might want to speak with the Navy, see if they are interested in buying any ships off you.

I would keep the point defense destroyers. They are still quite effective, and needed given the enemy's propensity to use missile boats and carriers.

In fact, we could use some of these ships for the proposed contract. Reviewing the 110th, I think the Cassowary, Dwarf Cassowary and Vampire could be useful additions. Perhaps the BSS Undisputed for fuel support as well.

Perhaps we could retrofit these ships. It would at least ease construction needs for you. Probably be cheaper too. (I considered the Blue Shield but think it would cause a supply shortage problem behind enemy lines.)


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Skyburn
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prophet wrote:
Also, I am sure your budget is weighed down by the large number of defense ships Bifrost maintains. 110th Defense Squadron alone is costing you thousands. In your original post, you suggested getting rid of some of these ships. You could even replace their firepower with federally-subsidized defense platforms if you needed to. Save Bifrost a boatload of resources.


We have similiar thoughts on this matter. I plan to have a large defensive network of bases to defend that WP. Most of my defense ships will be sold or scrapped. The flagship BGS Resolution will be scrapped in the upcoming month. I intend to mothball my troop transports as well. I dislike the Stalwart-type transports, so i'm not sure if I'm going to retrofit them or scrap them.

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In fact, we could use some of these ships for the proposed contract. Reviewing the 110th, I think the Cassowary, Dwarf Cassowary and Vampire could be useful additions. Perhaps the BSS Undisputed for fuel support as well.

Perhaps we could retrofit these ships. It would at least ease construction needs for you. Probably be cheaper too.


That is an excellent idea. If you send me the updated designs, I can start retrofitting next month.


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Prophet
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skyburn wrote:
That is an excellent idea. If you send me the updated designs, I can start retrofitting next month.

I will work on it right away.


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Prophet
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SL Skyburn,

I have looked over the designs. I think the best course of action is a straight upgrade of the current ships. The Cassowary-class destroyers already have an updated version registered in the Design Ministry, the Cassowary II-class. The Vampire is a Vendetta-class, a design from your very own House Bifrost, submitted by your predecessor. All it needs is upgraded weaponry. The Undeterred-class support ships need not be upgraded.

Please note that upgrading the Cassowary destroyers will take the most effort. The gun crew and nearly all the weapons require retrofitting. They are going to need the help of repair facilities.

That will take care of point defense and supply needs. But my privateer force is still short on attack. I would like at least 2 more destroyers, Assault Ship type. Most of the designs registered are pretty good, only need a little updating or tweaking. But their costs vary widely amongst the 3 resources. Some are high in Rads, while others are spread across all 3. Are there any designs that seem a bit costly to you?

I could use the Star Hawk corvettes instead. While not that powerful, I do see they are fast. They would be able to intercept ships attempting to flee. Though I question their longevity in the field.


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Skyburn
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have submitted a new Vendetta II class design and ordered BGS Vampire retrofitted. Hopefully I will retrofit one ship per turn.

The assault ship Sledge 0001 is in Kartogia. I don't think there is any retrofitting involved in it.

Since the BSS Undeterred is almost unarmed, I would like to make the contract six military-grade+ one tanker.

I don't really care if the resource cost of the additional ships is spread out or heavy on rads. Since you have more battle experience, I will leave that choice in your hands.

In regards to prize money, I would like to pay the destroyed ship's maintence cost. If you do a joint operation, I would pay based on the percentage of ships you had there. I.e. If you have 7 and the Navy has 7, I would pay 50% of the maintence cost for all ships destroyed.


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Skyburn
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any thoughts on the prize money?

What about ship designs?


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Prophet
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skyburn wrote:
Any thoughts on the prize money?

What about ship designs?

Sorry for the late reply.

The prize money formula is acceptable. Maintenance of the destroyed ship. Sounds good.

Are you intending to include the Sledge-class destroyer? If so, that leaves us with 2 destroyer slots (Vampire, Sledge, 2 Cassowary).

I may end up choosing 2 more Vendetta II-class destroyers. It is a capable design. The medium-range guns will help against fleeing vessels. Though against an enemy destroyer I would like some Plasma Cannons. I am toying with the idea of replacing the missile rack on the Achilles with one, and use that design.

I will let you know very soon, and post a draft contract here for you to look at.

And thank you for having a bit of patience with me. Smile


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Prophet
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, how does this sound to you:

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Dragonstar Privateer Contract - draft

An agreement has been reached between House Bifrost and Dragonstar Defense for an offensive operation in the Phong theater of operations. The terms are as follows:

1) Dragonstar Defense will launch a small fleet of warships into Phong space. The fleet is tasked with eliminating targets of opportunity. These include, but not exclusive to, colony ships, transports, and lone warships.

2) The fleet will be provided by House Bifrost. The ships will become the property of Dragonstar Defense upon transfer of control. They are:
    BSS Vampire
    BSS Cassowary (retrofitted to Cassowary II-class)
    BSS Dwarf Cassowary (retrofitted to Cassowary II-class)
    Sledge 0001
    BSS Undeterred
    2 additional Vendetta-II class destroyers


3) House Bifrost will pay Dragonstar Defense #### Min / #### Org / #### Rad per month for the duration of the contract.

4) House Bifrost will pay a bounty to Dragonstar Defense for every Phong ship destroyed by the fleet. The bounty will be equal to the maintenance of the destroyed ship. Should the Dragonstar fleet engage the Phong with other Federation forces (like the Navy), the bounty will be reduced to the percentage of Federation ships are Dragonstar.

5) This contract will last two (2) years, starting in ####.#. The contract may be canceled early by either party with a 5 month notice.

I decided to go for another 2 Vendetta II destroyers. Their speed may be of great advantage to the fleet against colony ships and transports; they can break off from the slower ships and intercept.

Now assuming that, you are looking at a monthly payment of 1826 Minerals / 950 Organics / 2171 Radioactives. Is that acceptable?


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Skyburn
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Navy plans to attack the MPF in Mveloem in three months. The BGS Vampire has completed its retrofit. I also expect to have the BSS Cassowary retrofitted by then. However, Dwarf Cassowary will not be completed. I will also not have the 2 Vendetta-II class destroyers complete by then.

I would like to activate your contract before then, so you can join in the attack on the MPF. If you agree, there would need to be minor alterations to the contract.


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Prophet
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely, System Lord. We are willing to oblige using the fleet however you envision.

I could insert a new line as Section 2 (and bump the rest down one). Something like:

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2) Dragonstar Defense is also tasked with assisting the Federated Worlds Star Navy in any operation, if requested from House Bifrost. Request will be put in writing below this contract (ie, same topic in Lawyer's Office). Such a task will supersede Section 1.


As soon as we finalize these details, we can sign our agreement and get things started.


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Skyburn
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would also like the maintence listed as 110%, not the maximum fleet value. The amount for the total fleet is correct, but you won't have the total fleet for a few months. (line 4)

For the prize money, I would like to deduct the prize money from the 700/700/700 owed me for my time with Dragonstar. Once prize money exceeds that total, I will xfer it to you via my orders.


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Prophet
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skyburn wrote:
I would also like the maintence listed as 110%, not the maximum fleet value.

I can understand your thinking. But I would prefer a flat amount per month over a formula. It makes both our budgets much more easy to manage. The amount won't fluctuate.

The extra funds to me early on can be used to bulk up my stored funds, which can later be used for replacement ships. Given that this contract is offensive-oriented, there is a greater chance I will lose ships. Under a formula, I would have to ask you for more ships, since my income would drop along with the ship loss. Under a flat rate, I could take care of new ships myself, using excess and stored funds. I'd prefer such a responsibility were in my hands.

Skyburn wrote:
For the prize money, I would like to deduct the prize money from the 700/700/700 owed me for my time with Dragonstar..

I forgot to pay you? Oops. Again, to make matters simpler, I would prefer to just pay you the funds right now. I have the 700/700/700 available in my account. I will transfer it now.


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Skyburn
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I can understand your thinking. But I would prefer a flat amount per month over a formula. It makes both our budgets much more easy to manage. The amount won't fluctuate.

The extra funds to me early on can be used to bulk up my stored funds, which can later be used for replacement ships. Given that this contract is offensive-oriented, there is a greater chance I will lose ships. Under a formula, I would have to ask you for more ships, since my income would drop along with the ship loss. Under a flat rate, I could take care of new ships myself, using excess and stored funds. I'd prefer such a responsibility were in my hands.


That is fine, then.

FYI I have transferred the ships for your contract to Red Fleet, and have ordered that fleet into Mveloem. It is ready for immediate transfer.

I will be building the 2 Vendettas at Kartogia VIII starting this month. I expect the first to be completed in 2412.0, and the second in 2411.3. They will be transfereed as soon as they are finished.


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Prophet
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hooray!

Contract up for your signature, System Lord. Thank you for your patronage.

http://home.spaceempires.net/ftopicp-39591.html


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Skyburn
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CEO Prophet

There has been a slight delay at my shipyards. The first of your new destroyers will be ready next month, 2412.1, and the second should be done in 2412.4.


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Prophet
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is fine, System Lord. We look forward to having them when built.

As a courtesy, I think you should know we are in talks with the Iron Hawks regarding this privateer contract. If all goes well, they will fulfill the required tasks on our behalf.

CEO Darenkal is looking to use this sub-contract as a training opportunity. I will take on an adviser role to guide him in the ways of combat and merc business. In return I keep a portion of the monthly payment.

Ultimately, the responsibilities in your privateer contract still fall on Dragonstar. Failure will be attributed to us. So I encourage you to notify us if there is ever a problem with Iron Hawk performance. If they do not live up to expectations, we will pull the sub-contract and do things ourselves.


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Skyburn
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CEO Prophet,

The Navy is preparing to move against the MPF in Mveloem this month. If you have not already done so, I would recommend reviewing the following thread:http://home.spaceempires.net/ftopicp-39992.html#39992.

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As a courtesy, I think you should know we are in talks with the Iron Hawks regarding this privateer contract. If all goes well, they will fulfill the required tasks on our behalf.


I have no objections to you subcontracting this or any other contracts.

(OOC: Very shrewd. Help new players break into the market and turn a profit at the same time.)[/quote]


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Prophet
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skyburn wrote:
CEO Prophet,

The Navy is preparing to move against the MPF in Mveloem this month. If you have not already done so, I would recommend reviewing the following thread:http://home.spaceempires.net/ftopicp-39992.html#39992.


By "MPF" are we talking about the Phong armada? That is what I am assuming, though I did not see it specified in the thread.

I will order Red Fleet to attack. So far there has been no word from Darkenkal of the Iron Hawks.


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Skyburn
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, circumstances have prevented me from retrofitting the Dwarf Cassowary to the Cassowary II class.

I have recently completed building a Cassowary III class ship. I could send this into Mveloem and then trade it for the Dwarf Cassowary, instead of retrofitting it.

Would this be okay with you?


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Prophet
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is most acceptable, System Lord. Thank you.

Unfortunately, Red Fleet's recent battle with a Phong carrier left it a bit crippled. I am afraid the Dwarf Cassowary is immobile at this time. If that is not a problem for you, then we may continue with such a trade. I just wanted to be clear the current condition of the warship.


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Skyburn
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The BSS Vigor is now in Mveloem 7,10. I'm ready to swap for Dwarf Cassowary. Does this need a contract, or can we handle it in our orders?

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Prophet
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think we need a contract. We have a trusting working relationship. A simple exchange of orders should do it. I will order the Dwarf Cassowary be transferred to you, and will expect you do vice versa for the Vigor.

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