Known Issues in v1.19 Series

chris2000 · Space Emperor Joined: Jun 11, 2008

Not sure if this is a bug. I'm currently playing a 1.19f game set to all AI v me. The only change I've made is to set all the races home planets to rock. 60 turns in and none of the AI have declared war on me, although plenty of them are starting to get angry. Previously the AI declared war within a few turns of me meeting them?

CaptainKwok · Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:51 pm Post subject:

AIs in team mode won't offer treaties with human players and have a anger bias against them, so within a short time they will declare war. It can happen faster if they've already met some of their AI teammates.

How did you set the races to rock? If you've been adding manually created AI empires during gameplay, all of them are going to use the default AI scripts and be much more boring. If you did this by changing the entries in [Race Name]_AI_Main.txt in each race folder within the Empires folder, then you're fine.

Stormy · Space Emperor Joined: Jan 07, 2010

I doubt this is a bug, but it is certainly an exploit. If you offer a treaty with a signifigant tribute, in exchange for them sharing all thier techs they will always (that I have seen) accept. Then next turn ye can nuke the treaty and be all caught up techwise. Particularily useful in very early game meeting a species with a different homeworld type.

Truth be told, I personally would very much like to see a simple point based tech treaty system.

Edit - also when viewing colonies several tabs do not seem to display any information such as races or population.

CaptainKwok · Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:34 pm Post subject:

I would have much preferred the trading of tech points as per SE4, then the trading of actual tech areas as it is now. Unfortunately there's not anything I can do about it from the modding side.

CamoAlien · Space Emperor Joined: Dec 17, 2009 Location: MN

Drones are only receiving the 10% base maintenance cost:
Racials are not in.
The 25% bonus reduction (for drones) is not included.

Mines are also only receiving their base !0%, and not the 50% bonus for being a mine.
All mines are 50%, organic and crystalline hulls do not have the extra 10% included.

CaptainKwok · Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:09 pm Post subject:

chris2000 · Space Emperor Joined: Jun 11, 2008

CaptainKwok · Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:53 am Post subject:

CaptainKwok · Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:45 pm Post subject:

marhawkman · Space Emperor Joined: Mar 24, 2008

I think it's okay. As long as the AIs eventually turn on you.

Skyburn · Space Emperor Joined: Mar 12, 2008

Hazcom13 · Space Emperor Joined: Mar 17, 2009

I agree. In team mode, you should be fighting the AI, not working with it.

Shrike · Space Emperor Joined: Jun 17, 2006

LordZsar1 · Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:13 am Post subject:

Maybe some treaty elements should be possible in team mode - such as all the "No [something]"-options. It does not stop you from killing each other, just makes sure, there will be something left for the winner. ^^

Obviously, "Non Aggression", "Mutual Defense Pact", "Allow Migration Between Colonies" and "Share [something]" are not the best canidates for such considerations...
On the other hand, maybe "Non Aggression - In neutral space" might be considered for a kind of "regulated war" (and in such scenarios even "Trade Percentage" might make some sense).

CaptainKwok · Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:39 pm Post subject:

Any other items that haven't been mentioned yet?

I'm aiming for Friday for the patch. This is currently what it has:

mwyeoh · Space Emperor Joined: Aug 20, 2008

Nice set of changes!

Im looking forward to an increasingly challenging AI!

ekolis · Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:04 pm Post subject:

Thanks, Kwok! Smile

One issue I just noticed with 1.19f, though - the PD beam says it has a 10% bonus to hit, but it doesn't have any bonus to hit; instead, it has half the normal accuracy loss with range, like anti-proton beams do. Presumably the description is incorrect?

Also, it's rather confusing not being able to tell the difference at a glance between a PD cannon, a PD blaster, and a PD beam... you think you might be able to come up with some alternate images?

CaptainKwok · Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:13 pm Post subject:

I'll update the images so that a PD Beam has similar colorization to APBs and PD Blasters to MBs.

ekolis · Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:50 pm Post subject:

Sweet, you read my mind Very Happy

I was going to suggest using the "small APB" and "small MB" images, but I figured you wouldn't go for that, then later I had the idea of recoloring the PDC image Wink

ekolis · Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:31 pm Post subject:

I'm not 100% sure about this, but in 1.19f, it looks like a level 1 Robotoid Factory when built by a race with the Hardy Industrialists trait actually REDUCES the construction rate of a planet, as if the 10% bonus from the factory was nullifying the 20% bonus from the trait... Of course I could be misremembering the construction rate from last turn... or maybe it had to do with population migrating away from the planet I built the factory on!

crazydog · Space Emperor Joined: Mar 09, 2007

Friday as pass... Crying or Very sad

CaptainKwok · Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:19 pm Post subject:

It turns out there were a few issues with Cooperative Intelligence. The intelligence points were not being transferred until the part of the intelligence script where projects were executed. Attack points that were transferred might not be available that turn if they were being traded from a player that was listed later than the receiving player. In that case, they wouldn't be available to next turn, as at least they accumulate. In the case of the recently added defense version of cooperative intelligence, they wouldn't be used at all if the receiving player was listed before the giving player. Unused defense points do not accumulate in the Balance Mod.

I've changed the intel script so that all cooperative points are traded before intelligence projects are attempted.

There's a couple of intel projects that need to be tweaked because they either reported false positives (successful attack when nothing actually happened) or bad targets and things of that sort. Still finishing those off, so that's what behind the delay.

Might actually add some AI instructions for doing cooperative intelligence, right now I don't have them involved in that aspect. I was holding off to v1.20 to do something, but while in Rome...

BlackRain · Space Emperor Joined: Dec 19, 2006

any eta?

CaptainKwok · Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:41 am Post subject:

Still working on it. I'm aiming again for this Friday. This time I don't anticipate any delays like last time. Razz