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Joint operations in Fizbon/Worric
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Kana
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*OOC* If you are going to be gone for that period of time you can setup your queues before you leave and give temp command of your ship forces to Prophet or SJ.

As for kicking Kotau in the butt, well I guess I will have to step in and give an order to his flotilla to move and support the effort.


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Prophet
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, FSL Kana, for stepping in. The Ukra-Tal front is in a tenuous position. If we do not act in unison, we risk invasions in both Yullado AND Fizbon. And a much higher casualty rate.

DD Squad Two plans to hold position at the warp point (Worric-side) until all three fleets are assembled together.

ooc: Alikiwi, if there are ships you want me to control while you are away, please make sure to "Transfer Command" instead of giving them to me. That way I don't get hit with their maintenance fees. Wink


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Alikiwi
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(OOC) Consider it done Wink Although it only effects 2 turns, I shall ensure that you get command, but I will be able to order fighters loaded from my planets if its needed. I will have access to these forums.


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kotau
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been negligent and no one wants to hear excuses.

someone drop a PM next time it gets this bad guys



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Alikiwi
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With an offer like that, I'm sure you will get several Wink

Meantime, nice to see you around Very Happy



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Alikiwi
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sad to see now, that for the 2nd month in a row, Kotaus ships have not moved. Regretably this is not the case with the enemy who are about to attack a second planet in Yulado! PM pending I think...


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Astorax
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We may be able to knock out the FoD in Yullado and save SL Combat Wombat's 2nd colony if both CEO Prophets fleet and your own fleet, SL Alikiwi, join with me in jointly attacking it at Yullado V. It has dropped some ships off at its colony in system and is the weakest its ever been at this moment in time.

I will attack by myself come next month if nothing else. I will not idly stand by while Federation worlds burn. I have spoken with my men and they agree, to a man, that we have no choice. Something must be done and done now before they succeed in razing one of our worlds.

I understand your contract is with SL Alikiwi and not SL Combat Wombat, CEO Prophet, but I urge both you and he to think about this thoroughly: that same fleet was menacing your system not 2 months ago and could easily turn north and do so again. Without Commander Kotau's assistance and fleets, you are my only backup I can reliably call upon quickly.

I would appreciate notice of your intentions before the month is up, sirs, so I can plan my own movements.


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Alikiwi
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very well, if Prophet is agreeable, we will send all ships we have (10) to Yullado V. It (enemy fleet) still contains the damaged ships I notice, and I believe once we engage them (twice given our ships will be late arriving), the enemy will retreat for repairs, or at the very least split it into pieces.

I had hoped to send Prophets ships to the Sundry w/p to cover my construction ship. If his ships are in reasonable shape after this engagement, I will revert to that plan. I must start building defenses on that w/p (to Sundry). However, giving CW a hand is first priority.

I will PM CNO Kana and request he take some control and get Kotaus main fleet down into Yullado to clean up whilst your ships undergo repair.

Might I request you move FNS Endeavour and the 2 repair ships onto the Yullado w/p in Worric. This will stop that lone ship being added to their fleet. Also, at this stage they will not know (I hope) that those are repair ships!

I intend to ask CNO Kana if he can spare some of those ships at Fizbon VI to cover my construction ship, as we can't afford to loose it. I will review this situation again tomorrow.



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Astorax
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I have conferred with some logistical experts (SJ) and my plan is tenable. It can be worked yet more elegantly, however. I will order my fleet to coordinates (2,4) which is SW of Yullado V and then order it to Yullado V. Both SL Alikiwi and CEO Prophet should move their fleets through the warp point to coordinates (5,0) and then to (4,2) and then to Yullado V. We will then all arrive on the same day, attacking from opposite sides of the planet with a pincer attack. Unfortunately, it is a dice roll which fleet they will initially attack, mine or yours, but the other fleet will be free to play havoc with their "keep away" ships such as the carriers. The carriers will be running towards one or the other of us. Plus, once the enemy carriers are down, you or I will be free to attack the enemy missile ships that also use the max distance strat. It should work very well but still it will depend on luck. It is, however, our best shot since Commander Kotau has abandoned us.

Godspeed, gentlemen.


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Alikiwi
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very well. It is agreed, so you will attack from the SW whilst Prophet and I attack from the NE. May the Galactic Gods (if there are any) smile on us!


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Astorax
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember though, that the coordinates I specified are very important as it gets both fleets to the planet on the same day and from opposite directions for the pincer attack.

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Prophet
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will admit I had some grave misgivings about this operation. There is great risk in it. What if our timing is off? If each of us were to engage the enemy separately, it would appear suicidal. That was especially true for the smaller force I control. Or so I thought.

I changed my mind after observing some tests. With the information from the space battle over Yullado I, my techs ran a series of simulations and discovered some remarkable results. I would like to share.

This contest may not be determined in one all-out battle, even if we do arrive together. Even in worst case, a sizable force remains on both sides. There will be serious casualties for everyone. Unfortunately it seems the luck of battle will determine which side comes out in better shape.

The results were most surprising when we engaged the enemy separately. Oddly enough, Dragonstar/Hermes faired better against them. We rarely lost more than the Palisade corvette. Though we only killed 1 or 2 frigates, so really just a stand-off. On the other side, 5th Flotilla would get more kills but at a much higher casualty rate. Our tests show about 6-7 kills, but 40-60% of 5th destroyed.

Unfortunately these tests only check for kills. It does not calculate what shape the surviving ships would be in.

So I will order DD Squad Two to initiate this plan. For clarification, they will move to Yullado coordinates (5,0) then move to (4,2) and finally move to Yullado V.

SL Alikiwi, would your ships mind forming up with the Dragonstar Squad? It might make things slightly easier if at least we were moving in unison.


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Astorax
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent, gentlemen. Thank you. If all goes well I shall buy both of you the first round of drinks come next month and we can toast to our combat prowess and daring!

On another note, I notice Commander Kotau has returned from being AWOL and has posted orders though he has neglected to inform anyone what those orders are. I suspect he is finally moving his fleet towards the Yullado warp point, however. He atleast can get there faster than CNO Kana could to help mop up. If he is indeed moving to Yullado, SL Alikiwi, perhaps you should message CNO Kana about moving the lions share of his ships to the Sundry warp point instead of coming to Yullado as planned.


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Alikiwi
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find Prophet your simulations, are very interesting. Although they show somewhat, what I would have expected. I shall give orders that my 2 ships be merged with your fleet to ensure they move as one.

I have received a reply from CNO Kana, to the effect that one way or another Kotaus 3rd Flotilla will move to Yullado. It can clean up the remains of the enemy. Also he will help cover my construction ship so that we can build defenses on the Sundry w/p in Worric.

When the problems with my mineral supply is sorted I will build a repair ship to add to those now in our region.



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Prophet
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The simulations are not a complete picture. Take them for what they are, a mere glimpse. It is possible that while 5th only killed a few ships that they also crippled the bulk of the enemy fleet. And some of the all-out battles did suggest victory for one side or the other.

I am glad to hear Cdr Kotau's Flotilla is on the move. He may be able to cover our withdrawal after the battle. We are going to have a lot of ships needing repairs after this fight.

Commander Astorax. If I do not hear from you again before the engagement, I want to wish you godspeed. May the Ukra-Tal reckon the day they challenged the Federated Worlds Star Navy!


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Kana
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alikiwi wrote:

When the problems with my mineral supply is sorted I will build a repair ship to add to those now in our region.


Or you could look into upgrading the Repair Yard a Fizbon. That will help in repairs and refits. Also you should check out the newly designed Naval Repair Slip Much cheaper than a repair vessel, only downside is that its in a fixed location.


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kotau
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have not anticipated much with my orders, I have merely sent them through the warp point, this and all things are subject to change.


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Kana
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

5 ships from Fizbon headed to Worric 0,10

These ships are primarily Anti-Fighter/Anti-Missile, but should be able to handle any little incursion. If they can be supported by some little carriers it would be of great assistance.


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Kana
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Astorax make consider just attacking Yullado III, instead of trying to take on the big fleet. Of course I sure he wants to try an stop a landing of enemy forces on Yullado V.

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Astorax
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CNO Kana, I would consider ignoring the FoD and attacking Yullado III tantamount to cowardice in the face of the enemy. If we let the FoD do what it wants without interference then it will eradicate all life on Yullado V come next month and then attack another colony. How long has the Navy ignored it already to our peril? No, that fleet must be stopped and I am the only Naval Officer close enough to do so. Granted, if Commander Kotau had moved his fleets with the rest of us, this would all have been much easier and less suicidal. Waiting is now not an option.

The attack on Yullado V will go through as planned.


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Alikiwi
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(ooc) A whole string of messages, which show has having been read that I've NEVER seen before damn pc.s!

I agree with Astorax and I have ordered my 2 ships to join with Prophets so he can co-ordinate the attack to protect Yullado V and at least damage that fleet, especially now its missing a couple of ships.

However I do have concerns about a SL who decides to not even try to defend himself and scraps a brand new carrier and every other ship he has in the same system!?



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Prophet
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We salute those brave souls that died in battle. Though I am glad to see that you survived unmolested, Cdr Astorax.

Now we must deal with the aftermath. DD Squad Two took serious damage. We plan on evacuating the few survivors of the DDS Bow and abandoning her. The remainder will slowly return to Hermes space for repairs.


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Alikiwi
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gentlemen. Considering the odds, we did remarkably well. Perhaps our crews have more 'fight' in them than the enemy? Given they fail to attack or pick easy targets, perhaps this is not a surprise.

I will be removing HHS Hermetic from your Squad Prophet and sending it to Worric VI to reload fighters. Please note I am immediately ordering a new Naval Repair Slip for Worric IX, followed by a Repair Facility. I strongly suggest you send some or all your ships there as its close to hand. (1 turn and 3 turns to build respectively)

Also be aware, the enemy fleet which currently can't move, will split its fleet into two. The better ones will move off. This should make it easier for Kotaus fleet to engage. However I recommend he sit at the w/p in Worric like it appears he has planned. Its highly likely those ships that can move may jump back thru.

Probably once I reload my ship with fighters I will also move it back down to that w/p in Worric ( to Yullado)

Also note at this time, survival pods from this battle are still being picked up.



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Astorax
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gentlemen, good job. It did not happen as I had hoped but we still gave them a bloody lip for all that. Casualties were alot less than I was expecting. I will be detaching 6 ships from the 5th Flotilla at Yullado V. 3 of them can move (at speed 1/2) and will be set on course for Worric IX. The other 3's crews have been loaded on my remaining ships and the ships themselves will be left until such time as my Logistics Fleet arrives in 2 months time (though theres only 2 repair ships in it).

5th Flotilla will move to the Worric warp point in Yullado to possibly combine with Commander Kotau's Fleet that appears to be jumping through into Yullado. My carrier and Cuspis at Yullado I will join them there and also combine.

The plan for the abandoned ships is to use my repair ships (and whatever other ones can be spared to attend) to get just the engines going enough for them to limp back to Worric on their own. We will not attempt a full scale repair at this time. Your ship will also be repaired using this same technique so hopefully it will also make it back along with mine.

I would like to sincerely thank each of you for your support. Without you the whole mission would have been a failure.

I salute you, gentlemen!


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Prophet
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Understood. It appears we will also have to evacuate the DDS Hailstorm. She took too much engine damage. Hopefully the repair ships can fix her enough to make her mobile again.

A short statistical analysis based on preliminary reports:

210 Federation crew are confirmed dead from ships destroyed during the battle.

Estimated total casualties for us stands at 526.

Confirmed Ukra-Tal Dead: 200
Estimated Total Ukra-Tal Casualties: 615

ooc: I basically took the total crew of each ship (which can be figured out here: http://home.spaceempires.net/ftopicp-20785.html#20785 ) and multiplied it by the damage percentage listed in the battle. A rough estimate, which is why I consider the numbers preliminary.


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