Ship Wreckage Events and Objects

isopsyco · Moderator Joined: Dec 31, 2006 Location: Always moving...

it could be added into other mods, however it uses some existing stellar objects (storms in this case) that other modders would have to deal with. If anyone wants to use the script code and other data files/models they just need to ask. Currently school is got me swamped and I don't have the time to extract all the files and related stuff to release a stand alone mod for this feature.

Feygan · Space Emperor Joined: Aug 02, 2007

Can you give a list of the files that would need to be extracted for use?

isopsyco · Moderator Joined: Dec 31, 2006 Location: Always moving...

off the top of my head:

component.txt (you would have to extract the salvage component since the component.txt for BSG is different)
external_events.CSF and %Empire%_main.CSF (I can provide the uncompiled script so you could cut and paste the functions)
several xfile.x models and associated textures from the BSG pictures folder (stellar I think)
stellarability.txt
stellar_Xfile.txt

I think thats all of them. When I get the free time I'll set up a independent mod for use with stock SEV and Balance (since Captain Kwok provides the uncompiled script files).

Axussriddare · Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:11 pm Post subject:

Could you remove the old storms? It is really annoying when my salvage teams can salvage stellar storms. Also a suggestion: Larger debree fields with higher chance for tech and resources, and perhaps ships that have run out of supplies. Can you create these fields when a ship is abandoned because of lack of maintainance?

Feygan · Space Emperor Joined: Aug 02, 2007

Just wondering if you have had a change to make any progress on the independant mod part of this?

isopsyco · Moderator Joined: Dec 31, 2006 Location: Always moving...

School has been (continues to be) a heavy work load, not seeing much time to do any real work until break.

As for the ideas and errors, I'll get the errors fixed and will incorporate the ideas of other ship wreck options. I originally planned to do this except the code and model requirements grow non-linearly everytime a new option goes in Smile

I mainly went for proof of concept for the release of the mod.

Darkshado · Space Emperor Joined: Oct 10, 2007 Location: Montreal

Any updates on the separate mod project you had for this?
I haven't read all the code involved yet, is it possible to have both "normal" storms and debris fields simultaneously?

isopsyco · Moderator Joined: Dec 31, 2006 Location: Always moving...

One could code it so both can exist, you just need to put a name check on the event so you don't salvage a normal storm Smile

as for the separate mod, I haven't separated the code into a stand alone. I'm not sure what kind of generic debris field one would use, maybe a bunch of junk that doesn't represent any type of ship. Either way, have to get through finals this week...

Darkshado · Space Emperor Joined: Oct 10, 2007 Location: Montreal

Okay, have some good finals, and I might try to fish out the code on my own then. In any case I'm pretty busy with real life myself so I have limited time to devote to this.

Darkshado · Space Emperor Joined: Oct 10, 2007 Location: Montreal

Okay, I think I have seen all the code involved...

I notice there's no way to really know how many ships were lost at a given location, and that even getting the ship counts is a bit involved due to lack of relevant functions.

I'll probably try to modify your Player_ship_Count_BSG function for it to work from the externalevents file as I can't practically start modding the AI files like you can if I'm going to follow the Balance Mod closely.

(I *might* try my hand at making a Pirate AI much further down the road, but at this stage I'm still working on getting something playable.)

And on another topic, you might want to comment tag components and such that you changed from stock, if only to save you some headache down the road.

Goodbye,

Darkshado

rnl · Space Emperor Joined: Jun 02, 2008

Does this concept has AI support? I was looking at the code and couldn't tell. Thanks for any comments.

Add-on?
I've been cont to look at your code and was wondering what function reduce wreckage storms until nothing.

Rnl

isopsyco · Moderator Joined: Dec 31, 2006 Location: Always moving...

It does now, the AI seeks out debris field storms and attempts a salvage operation. The code is separate from the event itself since its part of the individual empire ship orders - which is a complete re-write from the stock scripts.

To get the number of ships lost at the location I use the empire log to get the empires involved and take a difference from the stored ship count versus the current ship count, so there is a potential to have more than one combat between the same empires that would produce inaccurate debris field ship counts. I was thinking of taking the total battles the empire was involved in and distributing a weight value to total to the ship lose total.

I haven't introduced a timed reduction of the debris field, not sure how one would do that without more event storage use. But it is possible...

rnl · Space Emperor Joined: Jun 02, 2008

Hi, I was looking at the code some more and here's some options I came up with, good or bad.

- Switch to the event save data setup: Time,Size,location,system
- Use mark Mine field setup with is a storm at location to get the AI to go location.
- The switch allow for the reduction in the storm size, adjustment in point collected and chance of collected something.
- Change based of get points to storm size, level of comp, and number of comps, instead of flat 80%

Otherwise your storm setup is good and works well of course, thanks for making it. I'm not sure if all the above will work the way it's suppose to, this is SEV at all, but I believe it will. Let me know what you think.

Rnl

isopsyco · Moderator Joined: Dec 31, 2006 Location: Always moving...

I do plan to get the AI to do exactly what a human player would do for the debris fields (and all the other options I made for the BSG mod).

I have some time this week before my next quarter begins Smile

Will work the AI tactics and strat AI scripts, finally get the AI to do some real fighting.