Mod Bug Reports

isopsyco · Moderator Joined: Dec 31, 2006 Location: Always moving...

Please add bug reports and mod complaints in this sticky please. Will make everything easier to track.
Another good suggestion from MrWho.

isopsyco · Moderator Joined: Dec 31, 2006 Location: Always moving...

MrWho already has some input, I'm just consolidating the bug report. A copy of his post is below:

<MrWho> I just mannaged to play a bit of mod, unfortunately I have some work so I won't be able to test the game for now.

I did a quick ship design run and found that some ships like Raptors have capships weapons selection in equipment pocket which make a bit of mess (they don't have enough tonnage to mount them anyway).

Some equipment have too many versions - for example I found 4 types of space shipsyards modules - if they are diffrend they need to have clear description what do they do.

When I will have some I'll check all equipment and post any bugs.

It would be good to have separated Bug/compains/advices topic.

mrWHO · Space Emperor Joined: Jul 28, 2007

OK here is the first run:

Colonials design screen equipment test:
-bridge and CIC cost the same and require same tech, coz CIC gives better bunus it makes bridge useless.
-what is the point of having gravitation condenser that close jump points if smal and cheap FTL drive can do the same.
-there is mk.1 mk.2 and mk.V FTL but where is mk.III and IV??
-ECM mk.1 and mk.5 no mk.2,3,4
-Large fighters and shuttles can mount (I mean they can be chosen from equipment pocket) capship DU Cannons - they are too big and Small DUC are more useful for ships of such size.
-Large fighters can mount Hades nuke(100kt) and Gamma torpedo (50kt) that are too big for them.
-Shuttle can mount master computer, DUCannon,Capship missile,plasma missile.
-Shuttle FTL is missing.
-Stealth can mount DUCannon (too big).
-Stealth FTL Drive is missing.
-Steath have no weapons (exept oversized DUC) while in Show it's clearly can mount missiles(it would be fun to have special anti-drive missiles in addition to normal missiles)
-Base can use colonization modules (but only Gas and Ice while Rock is missing)

mrWHO · Space Emperor Joined: Jul 28, 2007

-small and medium fighters can mount microt targetting sensors, but LArge fighters can't.
-I wasn't able to force fighters to attack each other (fully equipped with small DUC, autocannons, sensors).

-Terran Destroyer doesn't fit to the rest of ships. I mean Ascard ships with fair amount of imagination are blocky enough to fit Tauri ship but destroyer with those 4 wings looks like it's from tottaly diffrend story.
It would also help to integrate Terran ships designs if Tauri ships would use Ascard ships texture.

Kepper · Space Emperor Joined: Jun 01, 2006

-I cant get any engines in the first turn. I research the engines i get 1 and 2 level for all the engine types.

isopsyco · Moderator Joined: Dec 31, 2006 Location: Always moving...

lion_of_judah · Space Emperor Joined: Feb 24, 2007

isopsyco · Moderator Joined: Dec 31, 2006 Location: Always moving...

MrWho got that also, I figured it out: the target type wasn't selected for fighter....they could attack other things except themselves.

Already fixed and ready for the next release.

mrWHO · Space Emperor Joined: Jul 28, 2007

I think that this mod is so big that it would be good to separate some tasks to specific testers so we can test every aspect fast and effective to prevent chaos and duplicated bugreports.

My testing game varibles:
-all research finished from the start.

My test subjects:
- ships design menu configs
- ship design menu modules test.
- combat simulation weapons tests.

From what I can see Keeper started the game with no research finished so he can test research tree integrity.

P.S My report about Countermeasure having nothing to mount appear to be invalid - it has some modules - so I removed that bugreport.

Kepper · Space Emperor Joined: Jun 01, 2006

- The combate sensor use 6 kt
- The stander armor use 3 kt

mrWHO · Space Emperor Joined: Jul 28, 2007

2nd run Colonial:
weapons test:
PDS check- on mounted cruiser hull
capship weapons check - mounted on medium carrier hull
fighter weapons check -mounted on large fighter hull

I tested such combat condition:
PDS weapons vs missiles - everything appear to be valid
PDS vs fighters - valid
PDS bomblet missile targer capships if there is no missile/fighters in range - propably valid

Capships weapons vs capitals - everything shoot at them, nothing to report
Fighter weapons vs capships - everything shoot fine.

BUGS:
-combat sensors and DRADIS aren't consider as sensors in "ships must have" warnings menu.
-gamma pulse torpedo do no dammage to anything.
-plasma missile do no dammage to ship structure - it dammage only an armor
- Hades nuke mussile and Cerberus nuke torp do no dammage to anything.
- I noticed that fighters are slower than capships with similar type & number of engines

...umh I forgot about sattelites, drones and shuttles, I'll also make PDS vs small and medium fighter just in case.
Also I'm unable to test fighter vs fighter due to mentioned bug.

3dr run:
Shuttles test
-Small thermonuclear torp target only small units and do dammage only to armor, no dammage to structure
-Small trelmonuclear torp don't shoot at capships.
Sattelite test
-shuttles and fighter don't want to engage sattelites (even if they are equipped with temonuke torps)

Weard bug:
-I could swear that in first run, capital ship missile did dammage and destroy ships, but now I found that capship missile do no dammage (??!!)

EDIT: I stated test Terran ships.
I still think that you shoud retexture Tauri ship to have Asgard texture (however, as I said Asgard ships design more or less fit as Terran advance ships - I thought about removing egyptian symbol from Terran flag, but I think it fit the universe - colonials -> Rome and Greece, terrans->Egypt)

Bug:
-Terran Asgard ships have broken "weapon launch point" - they launch missile out of nowhere - far from actual ship hull.

Question:
how to unlock Cylon organic Capship? I set "organic" in race traits but I still have mechanoid Cylons.

isopsyco · Moderator Joined: Dec 31, 2006 Location: Always moving...

[quote="
Question:
how to unlock Cylon organic Capship? I set "organic" in race traits but I still have mechanoid Cylons.[/quote]

Setting racial trait to Organic should hace unlocked it. I'm assuming your doing the `alltech` cheat to test?

You have to scroll a ways down the ship list to find the organic types (don't know any other explanation?)

Kepper · Space Emperor Joined: Jun 01, 2006

Some more bug, mabe:
- Large Ordnance Storage 20kt
- Large Supplys Storage 10 kt
in my opinion put bote it 10kt

-Kenetic Energy Weapon Manned Heavy Cannon 35 kt
-Kenetic Energy Weapon Auto Heavy Cannon 31 kt
in my opinion put bote it 30 kt

-Dradys 10 kt
in my opinion put it 5 kt

-Standard Armor 3 kt
-Emissive Armor 5 kt
-Stealth Armor 12 kt
-Scattering Armor 20 kt
-Reactive Armor 20 kt
-Radiation Armor 20 kt

I have a suggestion for the the Armor
-Standard Armor 5kt
-Emissive Armor 5kt
-Stealth Armor 10kt
-Scattering Armor 10kt
-Reactive Armor 20 kt
-Radiation Armor 20 kt

ECM Mark I 10 kt
ECM Mark V 8 kt

isopsyco · Moderator Joined: Dec 31, 2006 Location: Always moving...

BSG Mod 3.81 will be out shortly, fixed allot of the bugs your reporting. Will definitely become more payable now that fighters can attack other things, armor should do as it states (values where reverse).

and thanks again for your support in bug hunting, it will only make it better...now to fix some other bugs and ships I been wanting to get at for some time!!

mrWHO · Space Emperor Joined: Jul 28, 2007

3.81 initial bughunt:

-Colonial Heavy carrier use medium carrier icon (ship icon with view from top) and medium use heavy's icon.
-mk.V FTL can create 5 LY warpoint (while mk.IV 53 LY)-dunno if it's a typo or real bug.
-also diffrend FTL types (marks) cost & size the same (mostly), and have bigger range only to 1LY from previous one.
-I think that there should be "Small FTL" for shuttles/fighters coz capship FTL shouldn't fit into them.
-Shuttles/fighter still can mount capship missile and plasma missile (however PM 25kt make it's fit into heavy fighter).

[!!!]-fighters/shuttles/and propably sattelites still don't attack each other-
tested on Raptor and heavy fighter with autocannons, smal DUC,small thermonuke and rocket pods.

-there is a big "O" typo in created AI colonial players: "colonial cOnfederation"
-I see no diffrence between transports and freighters, they cost the same and use same "40% must have" modules. Maybe transports should use only cargo modules while freighters could use ordnance,supply modules?

isopsyco · Moderator Joined: Dec 31, 2006 Location: Always moving...

I was a little concerned about the fighters not attacking:

I did a couple tests myself and got small, medium, large and shuttles to attack each other in all combinations with all the available weapon systems.

It must be in the fighter attack options in Empire settings in the in game menu, its all I can think of.

As for the typo Colonial COnfederatio, that's a Captain Kwok Balance mood typo, he has the original un-compiled scripts so I can't change that yet until I get his base files.

mrWHO · Space Emperor Joined: Jul 28, 2007

What setting of fighter attack do you have?? I coz I have everything set to point-blank.
I didn't do any changes to it so they supose to attack nearest enemy thing (which are fighter and nothing more).

They do attack each other if I do a flyby (I order them to move into weapons range) but they ignore "attack" command and also ingore to attack them from combat start.

EDIT:
bug:
Organick ships can use organic weapons from stock SE5.

Kepper · Space Emperor Joined: Jun 01, 2006

- CanÂ´t have acess to the 1 level of Engine in the starting turn of the mod but after a research a have acess to level 5 of Engine most by bug
Is there any planes to change the starting date, the date 2400
- Are this valors correct for the Mark 1 FTL 60000 mineral and 30000 radioactives.

isopsyco · Moderator Joined: Dec 31, 2006 Location: Always moving...

I didn't touch the Organic weapons yet so they will be stock items for now.

As for the fighters not attacking, I see what you mean. I couldn't get them to engage on there own either. Must be something obvious or in the scripting somewhere. At least they will obey mouse commands to move and eventually engage Smile

I'm going to have to put this on the main forum and see if others came across this in another mod....

I made the FTL mineral expensive just to balance the ability with tonnage value otherwise every ship would carry one

isopsyco · Moderator Joined: Dec 31, 2006 Location: Always moving...

I fixed the Fighters not engaging, it was in the AI strategies data file of all things. I know have all the new units able to auto target and engage.

Will get the next update for the beta out as soon as I get some other models finished up.

mrWHO · Space Emperor Joined: Jul 28, 2007

It would be faster if you could upload only update files, not whole release.

isopsyco · Moderator Joined: Dec 31, 2006 Location: Always moving...

My chipset fan went out and fried my mobo, will be getting back up in a day or so. Unexpected set back.....I hate that.

Lost dome files on the BSG mod, fortunetly I back up so I only lost the fighter attack fix (just allot of typing in target types).

lion_of_judah · Space Emperor Joined: Feb 24, 2007

when you create a Terran Fleet there are no movement points.

Kepper · Space Emperor Joined: Jun 01, 2006

Because you most research the engine first. I have report bug the missing first level of engine, i dont if bug or not, for my most by a bug.

lion_of_judah · Space Emperor Joined: Feb 24, 2007